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Aug 25Liked by K-Culture with Jae-Ha Kim

I'm personally very impressed on how coordinated the fans were to disenfranchise for lack of a better word the media. Any news about it on Twitter was buried dispatch got reported so much they had their account suspended. There is only one article about it on the top hits of naver and it was only on the society page.

The media got their photos but the fans did their best to make sure that they didn't benefit from it. Making him hit the top of multiple songs/ album charts worldwide was a nice touch.

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The letter he wrote this morning just made everything so much worse. I wonder what his PR team is actually doing at this point???

What is going on behind the scenes that causing him to grovel like this. I hate to think that he's fully internalized all the criticism.

Imagine if anything more severe happens what the press is going to expect from them.

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Public shaming and ritual humiliation is cruel and unusual punishment and often irrevocably changes a person, and their ability to interact in society, often leaving them unable to redeem themselves or return to “normal”. It should be denounced and discouraged.

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Korea is a place my North American-British children say feels like home. They feel a sense of community, safety, and acceptance by Koreans when we have traveled through Seoul, Busan, and Jeju. So it pains me tome to see other ARMY painting the entire country with the same brush because of the media and police in this case.

So far, Suga’s punishment does not fit the crime. Especially when the investigation hasn’t even been complete, over 2 weeks later. When the baseball player mentioned had his all wrapped up in days with minimal media coverage.

It’s also frustrating to see a lack of support amongst his peers, which may be a Korean thing that intentional ARMY are unaware of. We are used to other celebrities coming out immediately to support their friends and colleagues, but so far there have been so few.

In a country so rich in the history of honorifics and community over self, it is jarring to watch as media and random knets tear a person down who has done such a relatively minor transgression of the law.

To have him apologise on the way in and out after he’s already apologised is dehumanizing and such a violation of his human rights. They said there would be no photo line yet showed the media to create one anyway.

Nothing about it makes sense to the North American mind. And I just hope he’s surrounded by friends and family during this, because it’s overwhelming for rational minded onlookers, let alone the one actually going through it!

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Every country has similar issues, but what I think sticks out to me here, is the seven guys are quite literally the public face of South Korea for tens of millions of people they know this (hundreds of millions if you include fans families who probably only interact w/ SK culture through fans talking about BTS).

How the gov, police, competitors, press decide to treat them is automatically a public political and cultural statement. And this is what they decided to do. The statement they consciously decided to make is; we have no qualms utilizing everything we have to put him in a pine box for our own gain and the public's satisfaction.

There's really no excuse that can be made that they didn't know that this is what they were doing. And that they forced him to bow down to them after bullying him relentlessly.... That's ****** up

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"How the gov, police, competitors, press decide to treat them is automatically a public political and cultural statement. And this is what they decided to do. The statement they consciously decided to make is; we have no qualms utilizing everything we have to put him in a pine box for our own gain and the public's satisfaction."

Agree with this 200%. This has absolutely moved into the realm of political significance, and economic impact, too. There is simply no Western artist who is the face of their country and culture the way BTS is for South Korea to much of the world. Maybe that's why some South Koreans resent them so much. They think BTS is TOO successful in the West, and has outshone other South Koreans. Maybe they think BTS deserves to be kicked off their perch, and they're willing to literally sacrifice one of them to do it. I tell you this though...they can say goodbye to a whole lot of their soft power if Min Yoongi happens to "tragically pass away." A lot of soft power, and a lot of money. If, God forbid, that happens, I will never have the heart to consume another second of Korean content, and I'm not going to apologize for feeling that way.

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I think Korea deserve this bashing. It’s dreadful what they’ve allowed. The reporters should have been moved on by the police. This type of humiliation has an extreme effect as you say. I love the country, I’ve been there many many times but this is rank and really highlights how much their media watchdogs need to catch up, fastest internet in the world with a medieval mindset is a dangerous combo.

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No se preocupe, no estamos contra el país, sino contra el sistema. Lastimosamente ARMY no sentirá ganas de visitar el país donde humillan y nunca les han dado buen trato a quienes al contrario, son la imagen de Corea del Sur.

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Aug 25Liked by K-Culture with Jae-Ha Kim

Thank you for the follow up. He does not deserve what the media and haters are doing to him and the fact that they got his photo at the station is infuriating. We did our best to not let any of these photos/videos spread on social media and we are still on a k-media blackout. They are not getting clicks anymore, and foreign journalists are catching up to the situation. K-media are the laughingstock of the industry at this point.

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Aug 25Liked by K-Culture with Jae-Ha Kim

I couldn't agree with this article more! The way that people just pounced on their chance to make Suga do a 'perp walk' when he had broken literally only one law, and he didn't even know that he wasn't supposed to do it! And he had done no damage to anyone or anything!!

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Again, I have mentioned I have tuned out of this story because I’m not interested in BTS in general, but… what the sixth letter of the alphabet?

I remember my Army friends railing about how the government was so keen to use BTS to bolster its image a few years ago. And now, I guess, the government (or at least the police) is doing the same?

I guess I’m annoyed as a citizen of a country where police treatment of cases also varies wildly depending on how prominent you are and how much press coverage you get (which almost always also depends on how prominent you are).

Sigh.

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Aug 25Liked by K-Culture with Jae-Ha Kim

First, I read this piece after your ETA. Are you ok? Unhurt?

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Aug 26Liked by K-Culture with Jae-Ha Kim

(Tone: Honest) I second the concern! 💜🖤✌🏼

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Aug 25Liked by K-Culture with Jae-Ha Kim

I took no interest in Timberlake's arrest, but I started catching up on the story just because of what's happening with Suga. The *only* reason Timberlake's situation hasn't been resolved is because he himself refused to take a breathalyzer test and is fighting the charges, so now it's going to court. But wow, this is some dull stuff. There are no theatrics, no scandalous melodrama, no real media frenzy, just the everyday humdrum workings of the law. It's positively *boring* and that's exactly what should be happening with Suga. In fact, his case should be even more boring, since his charges are far less serious and he isn't trying to fight them. There's really *no* story here any more, but no matter -- it's a BTS member, so the game is on. The police are more responsible for this mess right now than the press. The press is just not letting go because the police aren't either. A three-hour interrogation? And there may be more to come? Timberlake's recent appearance before the judge was about 20 minutes, and conducted via Zoom because the accused was playing a show in Belgium that night. Timberlake is still in plenty of hot water from a legal standpoint, but he isn't getting publicly humiliated on a daily basis, and that's a big, big difference. He didn't have to write a ghastly, self-debasing apology (a *second* apology) like the one Suga posted on Weverse today. This is turning into a human rights violation at this point. It's disgusting.

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Thank you for expressing such a balanced and insightful view. It’s refreshing to see a focus on fairness and understanding rather than sensationalism. We all make mistakes, and it’s crucial to allow space for growth and redemption. Your reminder that forgiveness transcends cultural boundaries is truly appreciated.

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Aug 27Liked by K-Culture with Jae-Ha Kim

)Tone: Sincere) Re: ETA- first and foremost, I‘m 🙏 you & yours were not harmed in the rear-end incident! I also echo your sentiment of gratitude that the individual did not harm a cyclist, motorist, or pedestrian. Re: She made no apologies– sadly, the fewest do (so it seems). (Tone: Reflective) In my experience, I’ve found that Westerners struggle with ‘taking responsibility,’ which in essence is a reflection of abysmal ‘self-accountability.’

“I realize that South Korean and U.S. laws are different. But I also maintain that certain aspects of human rights are universal, or should be. Perp walks/press photo lineups aren’t done because they’re necessary, but because it satiates the public’s prurient interest.”

(Tone: Honest) ⬆️ I couldn’t agree more!

As I read a number of articles and continue to observe the commentary re: Suga- there is something that strikes me (and baffles me that it is not discussed more often) ➡️it is the lack of/distinction between emotional & intellectual awareness of western commentators. While there will always be those who are quick to judge and place an entire collective at fault (South Korean Press/Journalists AND sadly will have no qualms adding South Korean- American into the mix). It shows a lack of knowledge re: culture, history, diaspora - third culture kids/individuals, and among much else the nuances of the roles of fame, shame, blame and the gang as it pertains to individuals v the collective.

I often think of the saying, “a dog’s bark is worse than its bite,” as it pertains to misunderstandings/ differing perspectives between South Korea and the west (particularly the US). Arguably, the west ‘barks’ at everything without considering any ramifications. What’s unfortunate about this in this technological era is that it can add a damaging amount of pressure & stress, which unnecessarily worsens a difficult situation. Ultimately, what ends up happening is that a ‘bark’ quickly turns into a ‘bite’ and in spite of being told this countless times- the west seems none the wiser…😔🤦‍♀️

“But I do think that as much of a cesspool as the United States can be, one of the things I appreciate is that Americans don’t care as much about mistakes as Koreans do…So let’s stop pretending that what’s happening here is normal and should be accepted due to cultural differences. There is room for forgiveness and redemption in every culture.” 💯

“And while U.S. outlets should be called out for how they present the news, rarely have I seen a South Korean national blaming all of the U.S. for the antics of the Fake News contingent.”

⬆️ (Tone: Sincere) Absolutely! Again, it baffles me how quick ‘to judge & then move on’ westerners are. While I can also appreciate how quickly they seemingly ‘let go’ of say a celebrity’s “scandal” there are other things they will hold a grudge against for years on end. (It’s pretty two-faced.)

As for the perp walk– it seems to me that Suga is being used as a means to keep the reign of shame in tact. Disclaimer: I’m not referring to the western sense of shame, which is experienced rather differently (just want to have that said).

As always, I am most grateful for your enlightening articles & perspectives! Thank you for informing, sharing and continuing to shed light on the situation & for indulging my words! 🙏💜🖤✌🏼

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SOY ORGULLOSAMENTE ARMY, y no, Corea del sur, su gente, no tiene la culpa del gobierno y corruptelas entre empresas sean de medios, de policia, incluso de entretenimiento, pero sus acciones afectan a la gente que trabaja para ellos, incluso la misma población a sufrido la incopetencia de gente que se supone los cuidaria (Ferry Sewol, Itaewon). No culpo a toda Corea, pero BTS a sido utilizado como imagen para atraer el turismo principalmente ARMY ya sea por conciertos o conocer HYBE o sitios representativos. ARMY tuvo un shock al enfrentarse a esta situación fuera de proporción, no era enfrentarse a las peleas comunes con haters, antis, solos o shipers, esto era algo que nunca habiamos enfrentado y nos estrelló a la realidad decepcionando a todos. No creimos decepcionarnos más porque veiamos la situación rara de que eran despeciados por cierta parte de la industria, mientras el gobierno se beneficiaba en nombrarlos incluso diplomáticos, dándoles ese rol que RM nunca quiso. BTS no son robots y como cualquier humano podrian cometer el mínimo error cualquier dia, pero nunca pensamos que tendríamos que ver a SUGA humillarse en algo tan estúpido. Se humilla él y ARMY se siente humillada, créeme que si esto hubiera sido un caso como "The burning sun", ARMY le hubiera dado la espalda, pero no, lo exhibieron al nivel de esos delitos.. es imperdonable. Y si fuí parte del boicot a k-media y compré sus albumes. No se si eso lo alivie, como esté mentalmente, pero al menos sabe que ARMY no soltará su mano.

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Needless to say, I've been appalled reading the coverage of this situation (for lack of a better word) and think Suga's treatment is beyond unfair and ridiculous—and I'm not even a BTS fan, per se.

Which leaves me with a genuine question— as this sort of behavior on the press/public's part doesn't seem to be abating, regardless of the outcome (as with Lee Sun-kyun) do you think at some point there might be an exodus of talent from Korea to other countries? If not, then why? I have theories, but as someone not of the culture, I would hesitate to assume.

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Aug 25·edited Aug 25

It still disturbs me how much of the media did such a crappy job vetting the original facts of the incident. Snatching CCTV footage that was later proven wrong, and blowing up the whole incident into a pitchforks and fire witch-hunt on a scale of tsunami proportions. Makes me wonder if there aren't some who seem to enjoy public shaming celebrities to the point of dire consequences. The expectation of perfect behavior and keeping celebs on a pedestal is not conducive to anyone's mental health.

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Aug 26·edited Aug 26

At this point it is safe to say my idea of South Korea being a safe country has dissolved. It is a very hostile country just like any other. They culture of humiliating and shaming an innocent man when criminals roam around free? I will never go to sk. The charm has vanished. I am damn sure this incident will put a huge dent on the economy that had a major share of perks it had from BTS being global stars. I'll make sure everyone knows this from me. I am going to shame this damn country that I used to protect till now. Tables will turn. Karma will do its magic. Borahae. Apobangpo 💜 Period. And Im very bitter about this whole thing. Better not see anyone defending this. You don't agree? Block me idgaf.

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It's incredible how relentless the Korean media is with artists and if they have more fame it's even worse, since the Suga incident we have only seen lies and exaggerations from the media causing more damage to the artist, the media has had to apologize publicly for what they have done, this is so forced against that boy that it is not normal, nor cultural, it is harassment and a violation of human rights. And yet the boy apologizes again.

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Thank you for this follow-up article. Yes not all Korean Media have been vicious. As a huge BTS fan I decided to stream/Play SUGA's music for the next 48 hours. Then maybe it will be time to play all of BTS' content on YouTube Music my only music source. Were i not an elder on a teeny pension I would have and use more music sources to play SUGA and BTS' music. If anyone has a suggestion on other ways to support SUGA please let me know.

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